eGroups Daily Digest: afb has 100 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49587 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 49587. Daniel Thornton Re: Keyboard PC 49588. Daniel Thornton Re: R=?iso-8859-1?q?=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF?= 49589. Matthew Garrett Re: Am I missing the point ? 49590. Daniel Thornton Re: Am I missing the point ? 49591. Daniel Thornton Re: Am I missing the point ? 49592. Allen Kong PPC Trouble 49593. Peter Gordon Whats going on? 49594. Will Re: Am I missing the point ? 49595. Sean Martin =?iso-8859-1?q?Genesis_and_BT_=A39.99?= 49596. Stephen Webber Re: Fusion 49597. Will Re: Am I missing the point ? 49598. Sam Thomas Re: Fusion 49599. Sam Thomas Re: Keyboard PC 49600. Christopher Ross-Gill Re: TinTin (Was: Amiga website) 49601. Phillip Bleeze Mag Size 49602. Will Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Genesis_and_BT_=A39.99?= 49603. Neil Bothwick Re: FTP Server 49604. Gareth Knight Win9x Viruses 49605. Gerald Mellor Re: Am I missing the point ? 49606. Gerald Mellor Re: Am I missing the point ? 49607. gazcwcom.net@cwcom.net Is there a Adom savegame editor out there 49608. Gareth Knight Re: Win9x Viruses 49609. NiGhT65 ADF Tools 49610. RPotts@scherer.co.uk amiga user group 49611. Nick Lamburn Re: Fusion 49612. Nick Lamburn Re: Door Wedge PC (Was: What's on AFCD51?) 49613. Nick Lamburn Re: What's on AFCD51? 49614. Nick Lamburn Re: What's on AFCD51? 49615. Robert Johnston Re: Commodore started it... 49616. Nick Lamburn Re: WOA 2000 Shopping-list 49617. Robert Johnston Re: Welcome 49618. Tim Seifert Re: Blimey 49619. Tim Seifert Re: Welcome message 49620. Tim Seifert Re: Am I missing the point ? 49621. Tim Seifert Re: HTML question 49622. Tim Seifert Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs) 49623. Tim Seifert Re: Another free-calls Internet service 49624. Tim Seifert Re: PIRACY-SUCKS 49625. Tim Seifert Re: PIRACY-SUCKS 49626. Tim Seifert Re: Am I missing the point ? 49627. Tim Seifert Re: V 49628. Tim Seifert Re: Cd videos 49629. Tim Seifert Re: PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question. 49630. Tim Seifert Re: Spoon-bending supremos 49631. Tim Seifert Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement... 49632. Tim Seifert Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9. 49633. Tim Seifert Re: The falling circulation numbers. 49634. Tim Seifert Re: tag! 49635. Tim Seifert Re: HTML question 49636. Tim Seifert Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail 49637. Tim Seifert Re: HTML question 49638. Tim Seifert Re: More A1200 Qs 49639. Tim Seifert Re: More A1200 Qs 49640. Tim Seifert Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail 49641. Tim Seifert Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail 49642. Sealey, M. Re: What's on AFCD51? 49643. Sealey, M. Re: hosts 49644. Sealey, M. Re: hosts 49645. Ben Vost Re: V 49646. Ben Vost Re: What's on AFCD51? 49647. Ben Vost Re: What's on AFCD51? 49648. Phil Allen AmigaGuide - aaaargh!!!!!!!!!!! 49649. Ben Vost Re: Strange dates (Was BT Internet) 49650. Ben Vost Re: Keyboard PC 49651. Richard Drummond Re: ADF Tools 49652. Richard Drummond Re: Genesis and BT =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A39.99?= 49653. Ben Vost Re: Whats going on? 49654. Ben Vost Re: TinTin (Was: Amiga website) 49655. Ben Vost Re: Mag Size 49656. Ben Vost Re: FTP Server 49657. Ben Vost Re: Am I missing the point ? 49658. Kevin Fairhurst Re: Whats going on? 49659. Kevin Fairhurst Re: Genesis and BT =?iso-8859-1?q?=A3?=9.99 49660. Marco Amadori Re: ADF Tools 49661. Mikey C Re: Genesis and BT =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A39.99?= 49662. Sealey, M. Re: FTP Server 49663. Sealey, M. =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_Re=3A_R=E8v=F3lo=F 49664. Hugo Wilkinson Re: Genesis and BT =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A39.99?= 49665. Hugo Wilkinson Signing up for BT 9.99 deal.. 49666. Hugo Wilkinson BT ISP thingies 49667. Nick Lamburn Re: What's on AFCD51? 49668. NiGhT65 Re: ADF Tools 49669. Tudor Davies Re: Mac Monitors - help! 49670. Neil Bothwick Re: FTP Server 49671. George Davis Re: PPC Trouble 49672. George Davis Re: What's on AFCD51? 49673. ANTONF@uk.ibm.com Buster 49674. Tudor Davies Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was TweakWB, WBCtrl, 49675. Sealey, M. Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was TweakWB, WBCtrl, 49676. David McMinn Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was TweakWB, WBCtrl, 49677. Simon Hall Linux serial ports and digital cameras 49678. Dauber TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other... 49679. Kevin Fairhurst Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other 49680. Ben Vost Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other 49681. Kevin Fairhurst Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other 49682. Ben Vost Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other 49683. Kevin Fairhurst Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other 49684. Shadow A4000 questions 49685. Tudor Davies Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was TweakWB, WBCtrl, 49686. Amadori Marco 400966/IF Re: ADF Tools ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 49587 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49587 From: "Daniel Thornton" Date: 1 Mar 2000 20:26:40 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Keyboard PC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:30:36 +0000, ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk wibbled... > Whhhhooooooooooooooooooooo?!!!?!?! Sometimes your sigs seem designed to confused the unenlightened, Ben :) -- The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk --------------------------------- New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page... exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well... -- Updated: 17 February, 2000 -- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble ------------------------------ message 49588 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49588 From: "Daniel Thornton" Date: 1 Mar 2000 20:32:20 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: R=?iso-8859-1?q?=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF?= (Was: What's on AFCD51?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:49:25 -0000, mws2@leicester.ac.uk wibbled... > Yep, SALES REPS. A shelf-life of 4 months. Take home that > Toshiba Satellite Laptop (with it's PII 300 processor) and it'll > last you 3 years and only just be a low-end system. It's not > like you'll wanna run Quake 6 on it.. Most people could get by with a 486 laptop running Word and Win3.1; you don't need the latest versions of software etc. -- The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk --------------------------------- New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page... exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well... -- Updated: 17 February, 2000 -- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble ------------------------------ message 49589 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49589 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:44:08 +0000 References: <200002280000.AAA11503@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> <89jvsl$n9h8@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <89jvsl$n9h8@eGroups.com>; from Will on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:51:33PM -0800 From: Matthew Garrett X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:51:33PM -0800, Will wrote: > I have followed the Amiga news stories for over a decade and just feel > that I have seen/heard it all before. If most people wanted to know > what is going on at Amiga then magazine sales would not keep dropping, > perhaps a lot of people are fed up of listening to promises and would > like articles full of practical electronics projects and advice. Nonsense. People want articles about fluffy bunnies and how cute they are. Aww. Cute ickle furry bunnies. More fluffy bunnies in AF and just watch the readership soar. (In other words - do you have any evidence in the slightest to back up your claims?) -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk ------------------------------ message 49590 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49590 From: "Daniel Thornton" Date: 1 Mar 2000 22:12:37 +0000 In-Reply-To: <89k0ir$ilda@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 13:03:23 -0800, wills-place@engineer.com wibbled... > I don`t think anything will change and I have no interest is saying I > told you so. I see Amiga a bit like the Rover car company, the old > Rovers and Wolseys were really something (I know I owned a six cylinder > beauty.) However, after various ownerships and re-packaging I don`t see > any new Rover being anything to get excited about But how can you compare that to Amiga; you haven't seen anything from the new Amiga company(ies), and so your opinions have no foundation in reality. > and I would be very > wary about spares availability pending the next take over. If I still > owned a classic car I would want my classic car magazine to concentrate > on my model, not the promised new range. Despite the obvious wrong-ness of your analogy, I'll indulge you. I work in a shop. In the shop, we have car magazines. We have Max Power, Fast Car, Auto News etc. We also have Classic Car Monthly, Classic Trader etc. They complement each other. Currently, the Amiga market is only just supporting two magazines, which cover everything. In the future, if the market picks up, there may be magazines dedicated to the New Amiga's, and magazines dedicated to Classic Amiga's, as well as magazines that cover the whole market. DYS? -- The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk --------------------------------- New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page... exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well... -- Updated: 17 February, 2000 -- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble ------------------------------ message 49591 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49591 From: "Daniel Thornton" Date: 1 Mar 2000 22:13:07 +0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:51:33 -0800, wills-place@engineer.com wibbled... > I have followed the Amiga news stories for over a decade and just feel > that I have seen/heard it all before. If most people wanted to know > what is going on at Amiga then magazine sales would not keep dropping, Wild idea: could Amiga magazine sales be dropping because people are leaving the Amiga for other platforms, and not buying Amiga mags anymore because they aren't relevant to their needs if they don't use Amigas? Or is that just so completely stupid that I should go and jump off a cliff? I hope not, because it's a good 90minutes to the nearest cliff by car. And I only have a bicycle. -- The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk --------------------------------- New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page... exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well... -- Updated: 17 February, 2000 -- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble ------------------------------ message 49592 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49592 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:46:53 -0800 From: "Allen Kong" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] PPC Trouble MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On my system I don not have "not 2" in the terminator file I just have "2" try that. Allen ------------------------------ message 49593 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49593 From: Peter Gordon Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:43:17 +0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Whats going on? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Some of you may be aware that I was one of the people who had a Cyberstor= m G4 on order for my A4k. Well, I've been trying to figure out just whats= going on in the world of Amiga Gx cards and I'm just bloody confused. Fr= om what I can see: 1) Phase5 have filed for backruptcy (spelling anyone?), so no G4 directly= from them 2) DCE have firm licenses to make old Phase5 stuff, but no G4 prototypes,= BUT they have talked to Wolf, but they're not sure what they're up to wh= en it comes to this whole Gx business 3) Met@box are making A1200 G3 cards. Now, I own an A4000, I want at least a 400mhz G4 for it, I have the cash = in the bank and I'm getting increasingly frustrated, so: =B7 Is anyone working on a G4 card for big box amigas at the moment? And = if so, who, what, when, where, how...??!? :) =B7 What about G3? =B7 What about BoXeR? =B7 (Amiga based..) Alternatives?? I'm fed up of using an 030/25. Somebody DO something!!! :) -- = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D so long and thanks for all the fish http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Real meanings #4: NETWARE: Never Easily Talks With Any Remote Equipment ------------------------------ message 49594 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49594 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:53:07 -0800 From: "Will" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 22:08 01/03/00 , you wrote: On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:51:33 -0800, wills-place@engineer.com wibbled... > I have followed the Amiga news stories for over a decade and just feel > that I have seen/heard it all before. If most people wanted to know > what is going on at Amiga then magazine sales would not keep dropping, Wild idea: could Amiga magazine sales be dropping because people are leaving the Amiga for other platforms, and not buying Amiga mags anymore because they aren't relevant to their needs if they don't use Amigas? That is absolutely my point. They don't use Amigas for the net and commercial applications and are not interested in Amiga news (such that it is.) BUT they all still own perfectly good working Amigas which could be put to other uses. Perhaps with just a little encouragement. Or is that just so completely stupid that I should go and jump off a cliff? Nope, life is pain - stay and face it. I hope not, because it's a good 90minutes to the nearest cliff by car. And I only have a bicycle. Good to hear it, I am a keen cyclist myself. Cheers Will. ------------------------------ message 49595 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49595 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:57:12 -0800 From: "Sean Martin" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?q?Genesis_and_BT_=A39.99?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just upgraded to os3.5 and Genesis falls flat on its face, oh well Anyone know of a fix ? will it be fixed soon ? The B.T =A39.99 per month thing, some info on this would be very useful I.E how to connect to there https server ? or do i have to shuffle down to the local Cyber cafe and furtivley (with trilby and dirty raincoat on) use the dreaded pea sea to get a password and account login ? hope no-one see's me ;) i'll never live it down. ------------------------------ message 49596 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49596 From: Stephen Webber Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:40:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <89itmu$8n9n@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Fusion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mad On 01-Mar-00, you wrote: >>> I've tried peters hardfile, and fusion still crashes. It seems it > may >>> be due to the rom I have (which is a 1Mb Quadra rom). At the moment, >>> the grey dithered screen is initialised, then the mouse pointer >>> freezes, and hangs the amiga. Are you by any chance using an 040 in your Amiga? Fusion requires a patch to use 040's (something I discovered when I went from my Blizzard 1230-IV to my BPPC). Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the patch :-( > Regards -- Stephen Webber stephen.webber@orange.net ------------------------------ message 49597 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49597 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:13:41 -0800 From: "Will" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "daniel thornton" wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49590 > On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 13:03:23 -0800, wills-place@engineer.com wibbled... > > > I don`t think anything will change and I have no interest is saying I > > told you so. I see Amiga a bit like the Rover car company, the old > > Rovers and Wolseys were really something (I know I owned a six cylinder > > beauty.) However, after various ownerships and re-packaging I don`t see > > any new Rover being anything to get excited about > > But how can you compare that to Amiga; you haven't seen anything from > the new Amiga company(ies), and so your opinions have no foundation in > reality. The comparison is straightforward. The new Rovers have little resemblance to classic cars. A new Amiga will not (can not if it is to survive,) be a rehash of the classic. > > > and I would be very > > wary about spares availability pending the next take over. If I still > > owned a classic car I would want my classic car magazine to concentrate > > on my model, not the promised new range. > > Despite the obvious wrong-ness of your analogy, I'll indulge you. I > work in a shop. In the shop, we have car magazines. We have Max Power, > Fast Car, Auto News etc. We also have Classic Car Monthly, Classic > Trader etc. They complement each other. As there is only AF (and AA if it survives,) I would like to see them incorporate classic and new. > > Currently, the Amiga market is only just supporting two magazines, > which cover everything. In the future, if the market picks up, there > may be magazines dedicated to the New Amiga's, and magazines dedicated > to Classic Amiga's, as well as magazines that cover the whole market. > > DYS? I see very clearly, and I have seen for many years. I have watched as nearly all the major software houses have left the platform - they are not coming back. A computer is only as good as its software, there is no reason for the magazine market to pick up unless new readers are attracted by projects using current hard/software. Cheers Will. ------------------------------ message 49598 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49598 From: Sam Thomas Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:24:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Fusion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Stephen On 01-Mar-00, you wrote: > Hello Mad > > On 01-Mar-00, you wrote: > >>>> I've tried peters hardfile, and fusion still crashes. It seems it >> may >>>> be due to the rom I have (which is a 1Mb Quadra rom). At the moment, >>>> the grey dithered screen is initialised, then the mouse pointer >>>> freezes, and hangs the amiga. > Are you by any chance using an 040 in your Amiga? Fusion requires a patch > to use 040's (something I discovered when I went from my Blizzard 1230-IV > to my BPPC). Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the patch :-( > Are You sure about that? I have been using FUSION since i got the OS3.5 upgrade and have never had any probs using it with my 040 (then again the ROM i have is 512k) >> > Regards Regards Cheers Sam Thomas ICQ: 64489402 ------------------------------ message 49599 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49599 From: Sam Thomas Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:29:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Keyboard PC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ben On 01-Mar-00, you wrote: > Hi Mark, > >> And it wasn't even unique to Amiga either. I mean, Amstrad's, Speccy's, >> Commodore 64's and too many more to mention were all arranged this way >> (even the BBC's) > > There have been keyboard PCs before too, so it's hardly a novelty. > Was one of them a Schnider? (thinks thats how its spelt) blooming orible things. used back in 1992 at school. > All the best, Regards ------------------------------ message 49600 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49600 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:02:18 +0000 From: Christopher Ross-Gill References: <89jv5b+5nof@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: TinTin (Was: Amiga website) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Laycock wrote: > > Sorry to break it to you like this, but yeh! Its that only way > anyone ever did licenses... ;) I think it was in AF5. Never owned > (or played) the game, mind you! Jonathan M. Dudley wrote: > > It's a platform level followed by a > steer-the-ship-to-avoid-the-asteroids level (and so on, about eight > times each) until you reach the moon. The graphics weren't bad, but > that's about it. Hmm... never did reach the moon. Pah, you can tell Herge was dead by this time :-| It may have been a bit early for Monkey Island, but post DotC surely they could have come up with some kind of puzzle/adventure game with graphics to live up to the books. Still, it isn't as if any game license has ever lived up to its hype... - Chris ------------------------------ message 49601 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49601 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:35:00 -0800 From: "Phillip Bleeze" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Mag Size MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To Whom it may concern. When Amiga Shopper went to staples it only lasted about another 3 months tell me the same thing isn't going to happen with AF Regards Phil ------------------------------ message 49602 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49602 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:52:03 -0800 From: "Will" In-Reply-To: <89k788$m3io@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Genesis_and_BT_=A39.99?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "sean martin" wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D49595 > Just upgraded to os3.5 and Genesis falls flat on its face, oh well > Anyone know of a fix ? will it be fixed soon ? > The B.T =A39.99 per month thing, some info on this would be very useful > I.E how to connect to there https server ? or do i have to shuffle down > to the local Cyber cafe and furtivley (with trilby and dirty raincoat > on) > use the dreaded pea sea to get a password and account login ? hope > no-one > see's me ;) i'll never live it down. You don`t need to use their cd - I didn`t just set up a dail up connexion. However, you may have to do the cybercafe thing to get your log on etc and then config the amiga yourself. I was never too good at getting either Miami or N&Web to work properly so I can`t help. Their billing no is 0870 241 4567 if that is any use. Cheers Will. ------------------------------ message 49603 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49603 Date: 2 Mar 2000 0:1:43 +0000 From: "Neil Bothwick" In-Reply-To: <012f01bf83a8$37e28640$1a7c93c3@co.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: FTP Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fool said, > There are plenty of reasons to criticise every software house; every program > ever written (with the obvious exception of "Hello World" and the like) has > bugs and flaws "Hello World"'s locale support is rubbish :) Neil -- Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider http://www.wire.net.uk -- I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory. ------------------------------ message 49604 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49604 From: "Gareth Knight" References: <726.94T44T13442776oliver.roberts@iname.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:26:43 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Win9x Viruses MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know this is off-topic but it really is an emergency. Anyone know how I can get rid of a Kro$oft trojan virus? ------------------------------ message 49605 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49605 From: "Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:56:09 +0000 In-reply-to: <89jvsl$n9h8@eGroups.com> References: <200002280000.AAA11503@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 1 Mar 00, at 12:51, Will wrote: > I have followed the Amiga news stories for over a decade and just feel > that I have seen/heard it all before. So you suggest they stop reporting Amiga news? Not sure that will go down too well... > If most people wanted to know what is going on at Amiga then magazine > sales would not keep dropping, Magazine sales drop because people are leaving the platform, because other platforms offer more, not because Amiga magazines report news. > perhaps a lot of people are fed up of listening to promises and would > like articles full of practical electronics projects and advice. I seriously doubt that the majority of people are interested in "practical electronics projects". Gerry ------------------------------ message 49606 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49606 From: "Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:56:30 +0000 In-reply-to: <89k70i$fier@eGroups.com> References: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 1 Mar 00, at 14:53, Will wrote: > That is absolutely my point. They don't use Amigas for the net and > commercial applications and are not interested in Amiga news (such that > it is.) BUT they all still own perfectly good working Amigas which > could be put to other uses. Perhaps with just a little encouragement. But I think the point everyone else is trying to make is, if they're not buying commercial applications or upgrading their systems, then what's the point of getting them to read Amiga magazines? You see the Amiga as something like the C64, an old computer not worth buying anything for, but maybe useful for some dedicated tasks. (apologies to any C64 fanatics on the list :) Whereas for a lot of us, our Amigas are our main computers and what we want to see in Amiga magazines is news about new software and hardware that we can use to do everything other home computer users can do, and more. Gerry ------------------------------ message 49607 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49607 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:36:48 -0800 From: gazcwcom.net@cwcom.net X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Is there a Adom savegame editor out there MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Im looking for a savegame editor for adom on the amiga if anyone has come across it please pass the information on to me at gazcwcom.net@cwcom.net or on here. Gaz i know one exists on the pc and the source code is free.... ------------------------------ message 49608 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49608 From: "Gareth Knight" Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:12:36 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Win9x Viruses MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gareth Knight wrote: > I know this is off-topic but it really is an emergency. Anyone know how I > can get rid of a Kro$oft trojan virus? In case anyone encounters this program again. I believe I have managed to delete the file from the drive and have not suffered any effects since. SYMPTOMS A file is installed in your start directory with the extension .KAK (can't remember the exact name) and the autoexec.bat file is updated to run the program when you next boot the machine. It is then copied into the registry and the original file in the start menu is deleted. The first sign I noticed was about 3-4 days ago- a task with the name "Driver Memory Failure" would appear for a few seconds after Explorer was launched. On the 1st March (today) the message "kro$oft-anti-windows. Not today" (or something similar) appeared , and the machine was shut down after you clicked OK (doncha just love PCs!). I set the clock forward to the 3rd to see if this would have an effect. The PC got about 2/3 through the boot process and started thrashing the hard drive. My confidence gave out at this point and I reset the machine, setting the clock back to February. REMOVAL The malicious code that was executed adds a line to the registry activating a process called MSHTA.EXE. I don't know if this is a file normally installed under Win98 and it was overwritten or if it is an entirely new registry entry. Perhaps someone can search for MSHTA.EXE using Regedit and let me know if it turns up. This executes an application in the Windows/System directory with the same name. Simply delete this file, remove the Registry entry and do a cold boot. I also removed a .KAK file that appeared on the root of the boot drive a few days ago. (This may or may not be related.) If Windows complains it cannot find MSHTA.EXE (it seems to be associated with HTML files), create an empty file in Notepad and save it with the same name. The malicious file appears to be dependent upon the date. It may have been on the machine for some time and only recently become active. I am still at a loss to where this file came from. I found a few sites that were run by Kro$oft so it is possible the file somehow came from them, though I don't know how. It was not picked up by a current Virus Checker and does not appear to have corrupted any files so far. -- Gareth Knight Coming soon- Amiga Interactive Guide gets multimedia! http://aig.amiga.tm ------------------------------ message 49609 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49609 From: "NiGhT65" Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:34:37 +1030 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] ADF Tools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Now Ive been experimenting with WinUAE until i buy my Amiga...and ive found a load (about 300) old A500 and afew A1200 games in my drawer and Im wondering if theres a way i can make These disks into ADF files so i can use them with UAE. If anyones got *any* utils or ways of doing it, let me know ASAP. Cheers, Ben ------------------------------ message 49610 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49610 From: RPotts@scherer.co.uk Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:38:05 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] amiga user group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed a web page for the Gloucestershire Amiga Group at the bottom of the mail "Pathetic Ioblix speeds". Trying to access this from my girlfriends laptop I had no luck. Why is this, and how can I get in touch with the group. Rob! ------------------------------ message 49611 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49611 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 00:44:31 -0800 From: "Nick Lamburn" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Fusion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, > > Are you by any chance using an 040 in your Amiga? Fusion requires a patch > > to use 040's (something I discovered when I went from my Blizzard 1230-IV > > to my BPPC). Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the patch :-( > > > > Are You sure about that? I have been using FUSION since i got the OS3.5 > upgrade and have never had any probs using it with my 040 (then again the > ROM i have is 512k) Yes, that sounds rather strange; since I have sucessfully used 512Kb ROM images and 1Mb ROM images (2). I took them from my Mac IIci (512Kb) and my Quadra 650 and 950. (1Mb) I cannot see why a patch is needed... Please tell us more! :) All the best, Nick. ------------------------------ message 49612 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49612 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 00:48:34 -0800 From: "Nick Lamburn" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Door Wedge PC (Was: What's on AFCD51?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, > >> Sort of OT, has anyone seen amiga.org recently? You gotta check out > > the > >> news on the "revolutionary zero-footprint PC" made me laugh ;) > >> > > Made me laugh too! Revolutionary? Hardly :) > > > > Unfortunatley the Windoze Sheep will think it so. > > Hmm. It always happens. Have you noticed how far up the keyboard the keys > actually are? That can't be comfortable, and how exactly are you supposed > to put expansion cards in there? > > Oh, you don't... It made me laugh to; and it's very very ugly, Amiga 600 and 1200 style casing rocks! :) Seriously though, It seems just as Amiga owners are wising up to the virtues of large case, beefy power supplies, and expansion slots. Then what do those silly PC peeps do; reverse all that and give them a PC just about as expandable as an A600! (in it's clam shell that is! :) They will never learn... :) All the best, Nick. ------------------------------ message 49613 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49613 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 00:51:36 -0800 From: "Nick Lamburn" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matthew, > > I'm sure that using Blitz can't be helping much, either. And age is > > no measure of ability: which must mean you're either lazy or crap ;) > > pleeeeeease tell me you're joking about the blitz sentance? From my past arguments he isn't! :) But I kind of agree with Matt (Sealey) here because though Blitz is still good, C is at the end of the day when all is (cliched! :) said and done, is the better language. Hence why after PS2k I'm moving to C big time... Luckily, I know quite a bit of C already... :) All the best, Nick. ------------------------------ message 49614 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49614 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 00:52:30 -0800 From: "Nick Lamburn" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matthew, > > I'm sure that using Blitz can't be helping much, either. And age is > > no measure of ability: which must mean you're either lazy or crap ;) > > pleeeeeease tell me you're joking about the blitz sentance? And it's SENTENCE :) not that awful SENTANCE! :) How many times have I seen that, written and in e-mails! :) All the best, Nick. ------------------------------ message 49615 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49615 From: Robert Johnston Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:57:56 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Commodore started it... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Oliver Esberger [mailto:oliver@websale.de] > Sent: 01 March 2000 20:37 > To: afb@egroups.com > Subject: [afb] Re: Commodore started it... > > The term "Multimedia" was introduced by Apple at the end of the > eighties, it was part of a campaign. But the things they were showing > have been done by Commodore's A2000 (and a bit later the > A3000) earlier > and better... only they called it "Desktop Video (DTV)" And Apple's now using "Desktop Video" (Or is it "Desktop Movie") as their buzzword... Hmmm... -- Robert Johnston (A.C.P.) Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers 0870 727 4020 x657 Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk ------------------------------ message 49616 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49616 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 00:59:58 -0800 From: "Nick Lamburn" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: WOA 2000 Shopping-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris, > Sometime in late June/early July, I intend to lose my WOA virginity. :) Oooh, you'll certainly enjoy it, talking to Amigans for all over the place, lots of great cheeeeeap products. My first WOA was in 1994 in Wembley, ahhh the good old days, sort of... :) > Finally it seems, the orgainsers have come to their senses and discovered > that there's life outwith the M25, and will hold the show in BrummieLand. I couldn't agree more. It damn well annoyed me (and my driver, aka. Dad :) that we had to get up at 5:00am in NORTH DEVON to have any chance of being there when the doors opened! :) Ahh well, I be quite a way outside of the M25, all 200 miles away from that pesky 'moat'... Now it's the M42 they're barracading themselves in! :)) None the less, it's 50 miles less... (nice ickle rhyme there! :) > Anyhoo, it's time to draw up a shopping-list, which includes the > following...... > > PFS3 > Photogenics 4 > PhotoFolio 2 > A Sub to AF - I won't resist any longer Ben ;) > Heretic II > Shogo > Punchinello > Any Boing! tat I can lay my hands on :) > Shareware registration of Frogger if possible > Catweasel > Keyboard switch for BMON Superb; someone buying Software. Now, pending say =A31000 pounds (pah! where the flying feck am I gonna get that from! :), my list is thus: A1200T ------ AmiJoe G3/300MHz Fusion PPC PCx PPC Amiga Kickstart 3.1 and AmigaOS 3.5 PFS 3 (snap! :) WipeOut 2097 Photogenics 4 (snap! :) 17" Monitor (replace my 15" vdu) A600: ----- Scandoubler and Flicker Fixer > .......and anything else that takes my fancy. :) Yeah, hows about a dev. machine or perhaps a G3 400.... Mmmmmmm :) /me remebers he has a 68040, sigh... :)) We can all dream a little! :) All the best, Nick. ------------------------------ message 49617 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49617 From: Robert Johnston Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:59:51 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Welcome MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Arran Smalley [mailto:arran.smalley@virgin.net] > Sent: 01 March 2000 20:46 > To: afb@egroups.com > Subject: [afb] Re: Welcome > > > >>> Cue Vikings ... > > > > >> Lovely Spam, Wonderful Spam! > > >> Lovely Spam, Wonderful > > >> Spam, spaaaaaam, Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, > spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, > > >> spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, > SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > > >> M!!! > > > > > "Shut up! Shut up!" > > > > BRING OUT YER DEAD! > > > > Where-so-ever computer type people shall gather, there shall > eventually > be the quoting of the great Monty Python. How true... > Geek rule no. 462 ;P You got a list? > Arran (an ex-computer science student) Don't worry, I forgive you. > saying Nee! No!!! I've had this argument hundreds of times! It's Spelled "Nei!" (Check the subtitled version :) -- Robert Johnston (A.C.P.) Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers 0870 727 4020 x657 Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk ------------------------------ message 49618 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49618 Date: 1 Mar 2000 22:6:23 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: <004701bf7bc4$38263de0$0100a8c0@andy> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Blimey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Andrew Gillen To: afb On: 21-Feb-00 02:02:05 Re: [afb] Blimey Hi Andrew, > Something strange has happened- I think someone has subbed me to > the Alan L.M. Buxey list without my sayso. :\ I've never heard of that one. ;-) But someone's done something similar to me, some "tozan" list. Anyone else had that inflicted upon them? There's a website, and the e-mails come from someone using YAM. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49619 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49619 Date: 1 Mar 2000 22:14:33 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Welcome message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Ben Vost To: afb On: 17-Feb-00 18:59:01 Re: [afb] Re: Welcome message Hi Ben, Realising this is an old message, but I shall plod on regardless, seeing as I see this type of comment all too often: > Perhaps you need to read one of the later points Tim, which is to > check to see if the thread has already been responded to enough that > it needs no further posts... Some people assume that everyone logs onto the net daily, when we don't, and that the only people who shall be allowed to reply are those that do. It could well be that several more replies to your thread had happened since I downloaded your mail, but I hadn't yet read (and in this case, this was what happened). I cannot read messages that I have not yet downloaded. I, like many others, do mail off-line, then upload the replies before downloading new mail. It's not feasible to check for more replies before sending (this is a high volume list, and I'm on several other lists too). And, unfortunately, looking at the dates of messages isn't always a good indication of how old they are, because people don't always have their clock set right. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49620 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49620 Date: 29 Feb 2000 22:46:27 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Ben Vost To: afb On: 21-Feb-00 18:01:27 Re: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? Hi Ben, >> As for "sneering at people who still use A500s", I don't think that's >> true either. But they (quite rightly imo) don't provide information >> for A500s anymore, since it is an ancient obsolete computer system. >> That's not sneering, it's a fact. They don't review software that >> will run on A500s because there is very little released these days. >> CU said it best in their last issue, "Please, get real, get a decent >> computer, and get a %@*&ing life". > There's a bloke that rings me up occasionally who swears that there > are more A500 owners *and users* out there than A1200 ones. They are > running Workbench 1.3 and he wants to know why we don't run much 1.3 > software on our coverdisks (since most of them don't have CD-ROMs). He > runs a usergroup and he reckons he has 12,000 worldwide members... There is a resurging interest in the A500s around here, which seems to due to the 500 being about the only Amiga that pops up in the second hand market. And after hearing all these rave comments about Amiga vs PCs, they get rather keen on making them work. Personally I avoid having to have to deal with them, but I keep getting asked to resurrect things (I run a BBS, as well as technical support for a few local video production facilities). And though I only really keep my old A500 to play the odd game of Pacman and Tetris, I occasionally have used it to call BBSs when the other computer is busy (I've four different computers here - 500, 2000, 1200, and a PC contemptible), it would be handy to be able to use the 500 to log on to the other computers here, just as a remote terminal. One thing I would like to do though, is get my hands on all the latest versions of 1.3 system files. Just to put pay to some of the little niggly things with the computer. And I just can't bear to just dump a computer that actually works well, for what it is. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49621 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49621 Date: 29 Feb 2000 21:38:40 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit _Replying to a message_: By: Jani Mkitalo To: eGroups Calendar On: 20-Feb-00 06:30:40 Re: [afb] HTML question Hi Jani, > How do I stirp away the blank spaces between FRAMEs of a FRAMESET? > Disabling frameborders and setting the margins to zero brings the > frames almost together, but a small whitespace remains (except on > IBrowse, which I guess goes against conventions here). HTML has no > command for this, but perhaps the effect could be achieved through CSS > or JavaScript? If you find a solution for one browser, you'll probably find another problem in another browser. They all have their own way of rendering things, and various parts of HTML rendering (such as gaps between frame borders, etc) are not strictly defined as to how they should be dealt with. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49622 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49622 Date: 1 Mar 2000 2:18:6 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Ben Vost To: afb On: 24-Feb-00 18:45:38 Re: [afb] Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs) Hi Ben, >> Oooh, get this fact-fans! A TV picture is run at 24 frames/sec >> whereas films are recorded at 25 fps (I think, they might be the >> other way around) so when they show a film on the telly they have to >> chop a few frames out here and there so what was a 180 minute film in >> the cinema ends up as a >> 179 minute film on TV (or something). > It's true but the other way around. Films are shown at 24fps, PAL TV > is at 25fps and NTSC TV is 30fps. However, you can double those rates > for TV since those frames are actually made of two interlacing fields > at 50Hz and 60Hz (times per second - a frequency Mash) respectively. Someone recently tried to tell me that films are now filmed at 25 fps, for video convenience, but I've yet to have this confirmed (they weren't the sort of person I took at face value). However, onto how it's done traditionally... Films are (were?) filmed at 24 fps. Though if you watch a film, at that rate, if flickers terribly, so the projector has a gate that strobes each frame twice, so you see a 48 flicker at the cinemas, which most people don't notice flickering. PAL TV (UK, Australia, other places), runs at 25 fps. To get past the flicker, it's scanned at twice that rate (50 times per second), but the second scan, scans the lines between where the first scan went (interlacing). NTSC TV (USA, Japan, etc), runs at 30 fps (well, slightly less, the frequencies interferred with each other when colour was introduced, so it's 29.something now). As a point of interest, NTSC or PAL can run at other frequencies, from what I've written above, but those are the more common ones. The reason TV didn't just outright broadcast at 50 fps (or higher), is that too much radio spectrum would be needed. But due to how the interlaced scanning works, one field after another, you're getting a picture displayed down the tube 50 times a second, so that motion is smoother. Though taking a still image is a problem. If you use both fields, you'll see the image flicker, as each field has a time difference between them, so anything that has moved (in the picture) between fields, will be seen jumping back and forth from both places. This is interlace flicker, you'll see the same thing on high resolution monitors showing interlaced computer signals. (Usually) only computer graphics had a fine enough definition to only appear on one of the lines, thus appearing in one field, but not the next, so flickering at 25 times per second. Though sometimes you'll see that happen on somebodies finely patterned jacket, on TV, if the studio has really good definition in their cameras. Usually, VCRs, and other video playback devices, only use one of the fields, when in still mode, displaying the same field twice over. Though this often introduces vertical shimmer, for two main reasons: One is that, for VCRs, when the tape stops, it's now scanned at a different speed, and the relationships between all the syncs is disrupted (various VCRs had a still fine-tuning control to minimise this). Many TVs don't like this, and don't hold a steady picture well. As well as colour circuitry going nuts, because of frequency changes, as well. The other thing is that showing the same image, shifted up down one line from the last scan (interlacing), can sometimes be seen as a 25 Hertz flicker in itself. To explain interlacing, in another way, in case people haven't followed how it works yet. Imagine that this page is printed on your screen in the following manner: Starting at the first line, every other line is skipped, so you're first sent line 1, 3, 5, etc., then when the bottom of the page is reached, the lines skipped the first time are now sent (lines 2, 4, 6, etc.). These scans are each called "fields," and it's a two field sequence (the next scan starts at line 1 again). If you bring colour into the equation, the colour sub-carrier signal starts from a specific point, and takes 4 fields to get back to the same place it started from. This is one reason why paused images have bad colour (as the sequence is disrupted, and colour is now reliant on the player bodging the signal to fake things, and the monitor not protesting), which usually is okay on a TV set, but can't be recorded on other equipment without time base correction. It also causes hassles for editing, as you have to keep the sequence intact between edits. Of course you don't know where in the sequence you currently are, when trying to join two bits of tape together, so you have to rely on your editing equipment sorting this out for you (usually by shifting the place you put the edit, which can be a pain, if you were trying to be frame accurate). When transferring film to video, several methodologies can be employed: For 30 fps TV, the film is sometimes played back at 24 fps, other times changed slightly to a different relationship between 24 and 30 fps, to minimise problems. But still some form of dropping frames, and mixing frames together, is used to cover up the difference in frame rates. It's rarely 100% effective, and various moving objects can flicker badly. In some cases, some production houses may re-render motion shots at different speeds, to cover up 24 - 30 fps conversion nasties. For 25 fps TV conversions, it's common to just speed up the film to 25 fps, and trade off a slight pitch increase in the audio, against all sorts of nasty motion effects from trying to interpolate what should happen when transcoding across two different frame rates. > I'm sure we'll get a mail from Tim Siefert in about a week's time > explaining all this very succinctly. "Seifert!" It's german. Get it right. Ve haf vays ov making you say our names right! ;-) Else call me Tim S., everyone else does. Trying to break that deadline, but I've got 1400 unread AFB messages, and I'm only slightly through them. This may get posted in time, maybe not. And since I've been mentioned, I'll answer, even if someone else does too. ;-) Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49623 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49623 Date: 1 Mar 2000 22:8:19 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Another free-calls Internet service MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit _Replying to a message_: By: Chris Green To: Afb@Egroups. Com On: 20-Feb-00 03:36:04 Re: [afb] Another free-calls Internet service Hi Chris, Seeing as I'm forever reading about UK phone costs, which bear no relation to people not in the UK, it's my turn to repay the favour. ;-) > Installation of a Telewest phone line is only 9.99, even if they have > to hook up a complete new connection rather than switch over a BT > line. Monthly line rental is 9.00, against about 9.30 for a BT line. > Call charges are pretty much the same. Wow! Line installation, here, costs $170. If you move places, there's a $50 disconnection fees from the old premises; and a $50 connection fee at the new place, if they're not doing a full $170 new installation. Monthly rental is $11, double that if you're a business. Local calls cost 25 cents in total, which is good for long calls, but not when you have to keep redialling. Community calls (across a few local zones), are charged at a local call toll every 3 minutes. With no indication that you're on a community call (no pips, or anything). Long distance, I have no idea about, because they don't print the pricing stucture anywhere. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49624 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49624 Date: 1 Mar 2000 3:51:32 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: PIRACY-SUCKS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit _Replying to a message_: By: Ben Vost To: afb On: 17-Feb-00 18:01:16 Re: [afb] Re: PIRACY-SUCKS Hi Ben, >>> V is very stable in AGA if you disable flash. Using FBlit helps as >>> well, because V loves chip-ram. >> Voyager, AWeb too, should be programmed properly to not require hacks >> like FBlit to make the program usable. There's no good reason why a >> program can't be properly coded to make better user of memory. How >> is an external program supposed to know what something else is doing >> to manage it for it? > So you'd like Voyager and AWeb to hack the system too? What will > happen if you are already running FBlit and you run a program that > tries to patch the same thing? I foresee problems, and I'm sure that > Olli and Yvon did too, which is why they left the hacks to the hacks > and just wrote the most stable programs they could. Besides which, I'd > hate it if V had FBlit built into it. I don't need it on my gfx card, > and I don't want it. No. First off, relying on hacks is bad news, coding around hacks is even worse news. There is no reason that a program that handles graphics can't be coded in such a way that only the on-screen graphics is held in graphics memory. The off-screen stuff can be shuffled in and out as required. This sort of thing should be done in the program itself, where the nature of how the entire program works is known by the coder. There is no need to worry about something else taking over, and doing something unexpected, if the program handles all of that stuff properly in the first place. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49625 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49625 Date: 1 Mar 2000 3:48:16 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: PIRACY-SUCKS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Ben Vost To: afb On: 17-Feb-00 18:04:34 Re: [afb] Re: PIRACY-SUCKS Hi Ben, >> Disregarding any trouble with registering, I wouldn't buy Voyager in >> a fit. Quite apart from it's bugginess, it's still backward in an >> only partial support of common HTML codes. > But if you couldn't use Voyager for any length of time, how do you > know that Tim? It didn't take long to find that various HTML codes weren't supported at all, or rendered attrociously. And seeing as how a page looks is half of the WWW, that's a deciding factor as to which browser to use. Having it crash, or not even run definitely is not in its favour. Last time I looked, Voyager didn't support ordered lists, there were several other things that just didn't work, amongst others that worked oddly. I can't remember anymore, I don't touch it now. And here's a comment I'd like to make about any software: If the demo crashes and burns, that gives me no reason to believe the coder can program the non-demo version any more stabily. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49626 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49626 Date: 29 Feb 2000 23:24:1 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Simon Mason To: afb On: 21-Feb-00 23:09:52 Re: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? Hi Simon, > Christ,maybe I should keep the wifes old 386 - maybe the Pc mags will > write loads of features and produce games for it - Not! Do all the > Amiga community a favour and upgrade! That's not an entirely rediculous idea. People do use old 386s and 486s as printer spoolers, and for other network dogsbody tasks. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49627 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49627 Date: 1 Mar 2000 5:26:1 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: V MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Andrew Bell To: afb On: 18-Feb-00 13:35:45 Re: [afb] Re: V Hi Andrew, >> Authors go around patching MCCs to hack them into their programs, >> breaking their operation with other MUI programs. > I've yet to see a patched "MCC". YAM had a patched version of NList. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49628 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49628 Date: 1 Mar 2000 1:5:34 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Cd videos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Gerald Mellor To: afb On: 19-Feb-00 23:48:10 Re: [afb] Re: Cd videos Hi Gerald, >> I was hoping that some one can help me I`am trying to play the >> videos that are on some music cds I have MooVid (Plays AVI & MOV) >> but when I stick a cd in it want let me open the cd up to play the >> film. Please help me because I`ve got some No Doubt & Sublime videos >> I`m desperate to watch. I tried to do that on my sister's Mac once, but we couldn't. The disk even came with a program to view it, but that crashed during install (it was a Microsoft program). > Some Quicktime or AVI movies may be encoded in a way that can't yet be > read by any Amiga software. But if you can't even read the CD, it > doesn't sound like this is the problem. What formats/variations of QuickTime and AVI can be played on Amigas (other computers too, without a hassle of finding extra CODECs)? I've just burnt a CD with a video of something I made years ago, and I'm trying to figure out what's the best way to make it more compatible with everything. Thus far, I have the same file dumped on the disk, several times over. It's on once as an AVI (YUV422 encoding), at some 300 megs; the same file as an MPEG-2, at about 20 megs; and in Real Media as well, at about 3 megs (this looks awful); and for a really shocking picture, you can turn it into a 350 k Real Media file. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49629 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49629 Date: 1 Mar 2000 3:41:4 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Alan L.M. Buxey To: AFB On: 25-Feb-00 05:06:54 Re: [afb] Re: PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question. Hi Alan, >> My questions are; What does the CC_Reset fix do? Is it essential? >> What will happen if I don't bother with it? and finally; Does anyone >> know where I can lay my hands on a list of suitable network cards >> (preferably with UTP connection rather than BNC) that have been >> proven to work properly on an A1200 (with or without the fix). > you want t use RJ-45 - its the best. as for CCReset...what'll happen > wihout it done? Well, the card will work when you boot up your > machine..but wont work if you warm reboot I would think that cold (instead of warm) booting would be better than constantly pulling a card in and out of the computer (one with a less than robust connection too). Bye, Tim. 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For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49630 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49630 Date: 1 Mar 2000 4:25:59 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: <200002171151.LAA04918@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Spoon-bending supremos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Gerald Mellor <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> To: afb On: 17-Feb-00 20:51:21 Re: [afb] Re: Spoon-bending supremos Hi Gerald, >> Either term can be applied to the usual kind of addresses you'll see, >> though I use the term URI, because I tend to follow standards and >> conventions properly, rather than ad hoc. It's just the engineer in >> me. > You have an engineer in you? That would explain your disregard for > the accepted view of physics ;) There are those of us who don't believe fancy theories. ;-) Though actually, because of what I do, it's not uncommon to prove that fancy theories are completely incorrect. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) I think I can see how slowly the darkness is travelling. Nyah, Ben. ;-) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49631 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49631 Date: 1 Mar 2000 3:21:40 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Alan L.M. Buxey To: Jonathan M. Dudley On: 21-Feb-00 00:02:39 Re: [afb] Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement... Hi Alan, >> If AWeb can make a browser that uses a GUI we don't have to pay for, >> then it can be done. > you obviously havent used Voyager3 - or IBrowse , as those have what > *I'd* call a webbrowsing GUI Nup, absolutele wrong, I have. But the point I'm making is, I want a program that can do a task, I don't necessarily need a rediculously glitzed GUI to do it. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49632 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49632 Date: 1 Mar 2000 4:47:49 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9...8...7... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit _Replying to a message_: By: Matthew O'Neill To: afb On: 18-Feb-00 01:31:03 Re: [afb] Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9...8...7... Hi Matthew, > Hi Tim > > Dont have the orignal of this for some reason?... >>> It's 50, and you'll be getting a fully working TESTED non beta of >>> the FS. You wouldn't want your hard drive dying would you? > Its not gonna die, and it is *NOT* 50. nowhere sells it for 50! I didn't write that, if I did, there wouldn't have been double nested quote marks. Bye, Tim. 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Hi Gerald, >>> Why should they continue developing/writing stuff, "for the sake of >>> it" ? >> That's their choice, if they want to be capitalists. > That's the way the world works, I'm afraid. You're not a social > security fund, and neither are they. Software developers deserve to > be paid for their work the same as everyone else. Of course they > shouldn't expect people to pay for their products if they don't think > they're worth it. But similarly, if you don't think a program's worth > paying for, you shouldn't be using it in the first place. "I" never said "I" was using software that I hadn't paid for, but should have. I'm saying that I'm not buying stuff for the sake of other people. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49634 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49634 Date: 1 Mar 2000 4:35:22 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFCC5@THE_EXCHANGE> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: tag! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Robert Johnston To: 'afb@egroups.com' On: 17-Feb-00 18:34:54 Re: [afb] Re: tag! Hi Robert, >>> What? No RTF? No CSV? What group of Amateurs d'you work for? :)) >> Only the other day I tried to find a Windoze program that >> would import a comma seperated values file, and damned if >> I could find one. > Excel does... all you need do is "Open -> Text files (File type box)", > then it'll give you all the import options you need. Hmm, now all I need to do is find some spare cash to buy it. :-( This windows disaster box came with nothing but the bare minimum software (the Win98SE disk). Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49635 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49635 Date: 1 Mar 2000 2:46:51 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: <1558.89T2242T11754828ajmills@wharne.u-net.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Andy Mills To: afb On: 25-Feb-00 04:35:44 Re: [afb] Re: HTML question Hi Andy, > Besides, I did forget about something, using WIDTH and HEIGHT in table > cells won't always work. It's the way you lay out your code that can > cause problems, e.g.; > > > > > > > > Will cause the gaps in NN and Aweb, etc. But, by laying out in the > following way, won't; > > > > And it's precisely this sort of thing that reinforces the idea of not using HTML authoring programs. They often format the HTML in a similar way to this, that's okay for constructing the page (to read the source code easily), but has it's own bugs, causing problems like this, as well formatting things terribly and introducing Syntax errors, which you have to hand edit out.. Maybe even reformatting the code like this (below), may be a better idea, in some cases: In some ways, it'd be better if HTML only saw white space in the middle of text body, not immediately beside of HTML codes. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49636 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49636 Date: 29 Feb 2000 21:41:5 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Bert Volders To: AFB On: 22-Feb-00 07:16:00 Re: [afb] JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-( Hi Bert, > *The questions* > Is it normal for these browsers to take a long time for executing JS? > What functions are known to slow it down? When I struck a JavaScripted page on AWeb, it would always run terribly slowly (and drag everything else down with it), especially if I found one that put up a scrolling message in the status bar. Bye, Tim. 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For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49637 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49637 Date: 1 Mar 2000 2:35:53 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: <005e01bf7cb7$2893d6a0$b6f831d4@innit> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Alex Furmanski To: afb On: 22-Feb-00 06:54:13 Re: [afb] Re: HTML question Hi Alex, >>>> Most validators seem to allow FRAMESPACING, so as long as it's >>>> used properly, it should still be `legal'. >>>Maybe, given enough gentle nudging, W3 might put it in the spec. >> TBH, I don't really see the point in FRAMESPACING at all. Why or when >> would having blank spaces/voids in between the the documents on >> frames be wanted? > Indeed. If you did want spacing you could always put a discreet > mini-frame that loads a blank page in. Now what really annoys me is > the way Netscape wants to put a gap between the cells in your tables > whether you want them or not. Grrr. One particular problem, with designing framed pages, is that each browser has different widths for the frame scroller. So depending on how big their screen is, they may or may not get a scroll bar, and you won't know what width it is anyway. You end up having to leave gaps around things which looks bad when there is no scroll bar there, else a scroll bar may appear over the top of them (if the page is too big for their screen), which looks bad too. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49638 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49638 Date: 1 Mar 2000 3:16:35 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: More A1200 Qs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Matthew O'Neill To: afb On: 22-Feb-00 03:47:03 Re: [afb] Re: More A1200 Qs Hi Matthew, >>> And that's not frequency-related? Honestly Mash, think before > No its not, the only frequency related flicker is a low refresh rate, > less than 45Hz mostly. Interlace flicker is an entirely different > matter., its caused by, well interlace. Anyway, I was mainly shouting > because he said it was too quick for the monitor to handle to handle. If you want to hide interlace flicker, you need to get the interlace rate twice above 45 Hertz (to use your figures), so that the adjacent fields flicker at a rate beyond your perception. TV example: 25 frames per second, 50 fields per second. But we see a 25 Hertz flicker, because there is a 25 Hertz component in how it's displayed. Therefore, to hide this flicker, we have to get the base frame rate well above 25 frames per second, double it for an easier engineering task (consequently, the field rate increases too). Though, by the time you've got technology that will run this fast, you may as well dump interlacing, and get rid of the trouble it causes. There's two sides to the flicker problem. The flicker rates, and the persistance (how long the scan stays lit, and the reaction times of the human eye). Various monitors have different persistance rates. Fast ones are good for displaying fast moving object (without blur), but show up any flicker in the worst manner. Bye, Tim. 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Its caused by the amiga outputting different images on >> the scan lines, and the fact that the refresh rate is so slow that >> the image appears to jump up and down 1 line 50 times a second (or 60 >> in ntsc which is why its not as bad) > And that's not frequency-related? Honestly Mash, think before you open > your mouth (or type something). Interlacing exists, because it's difficult to get, say: 100, lines down the screen 100 times a second (bogus numbers, for a simple explanation). It's easier to get 50 lines down a picture 100 times a second, and do the 50 lines you missed last time, during the next scan. Technology has improved, over time, and now interlaced video, on computer screens, is much rarer. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49640 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49640 Date: 1 Mar 2000 2:56:45 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Bert Volders To: afb On: 23-Feb-00 03:55:17 Re: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-( Hi Bert, >> Don't do it! By all means have a sire that sues JavaScript, but not >> one that relies on it. Do you really want to lock out anyone without >> JS or running with JS disabled? > No I don't. However, using it means I'll have to type a lot less HTML > and adding /removing points from the menu is a lot easier. So, yes I > use it because I am lazy. How does debugging convoluted JavaScript become easier than programming HTML in the first place? And if you're using an authoring program, either way (HTML of JavaScript), the hard slog is being done for you. >> This *is* an Amiga list. you'd be surprised how many people here have >> Voyager and/or AWeb, and a "decent Amiga". > I know that as I know that I am using only a half-decent one ;-) . > What I am just trying to do is to understand what JS-parts tend to > slow down the machines a lot so that it can be avoided in future. Lets see, HTML has to be interpreted and rendered. Not a quick process. JavaScript has to be interpreted on top of that, and may be interpreted into HTML layout, or direct into however the browser works (depending on how the JavaScript engine works, in the browser itself). Either way, it's more code to be interpreted before it acts. And assuming you're not using commands that only work on certain browsers as well. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49641 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49641 Date: 1 Mar 2000 2:52:50 +0900 From: "Tim Seifert" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Replying to a message_: By: Matthew O'Neill To: afb On: 23-Feb-00 03:16:16 Re: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-( Hi Matthew, >> *The questions* >> Is it normal for these browsers to take a long time for executing JS? >> What functions are known to slow it down? > Well it really does depend on what you're doing with it. Preloading > some gfx for rollover images is almost instant on my 030, so it basic > functions such as checking what versions of a browser someone is > using, then loading a page depending on what the results were I've been to pages like that, and they spend an age loading in all the bits before you can use them (and they're usually the types that don't put anything useful in the image ALT tags either, bastards). Just because the page loads the button changeover graphics before you actually bring a mouse near the button, doesn't make things that much faster to browse. Bye, Tim. (B.A. T.L.M.N.) -- http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au (Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical support, and more. For further information visit the web site. *** DO NOT SEND JUNK MAIL *** ------------------------------ message 49642 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49642 From: "Sealey, M." Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:03:57 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I'm sure that using Blitz can't be helping much, either. And age is > > no measure of ability: which must mean you're either lazy or crap ;) > > pleeeeeease tell me you're joking about the blitz sentance? Why should I? Sorry, but Blitz is shit. I have fond memories of using it for the few months I could be bothered to live with it's quirks, but I have since learned that it's better to learn a completely new language than to continually work around the flaws of another. I get more work done that way.. -- Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk Distributed Systems Support Computer Centre University of Leicester ------------------------------ message 49643 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49643 From: "Sealey, M." Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:06:47 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: hosts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hiya > > All this talk of domain names has got me-a-pondering. How would I go > about getting a domain with a different suffix? Such as .it? There are some domain people who'll register them as Information Technology rather than the "Italy" version, although I can't for the life of me remember their name.. Standard practice, though, is to only register .uk and .ca and .be domains for people who live in those countries.. I'm sure some BeOS users would love to have a Belgian domain name, but I doubt they could find anyone to do it outside of Belgium.. -- Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk Distributed Systems Support Computer Centre University of Leicester ------------------------------ message 49644 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49644 From: "Sealey, M." Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:21:51 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: hosts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi Matt >=20 > > Someone pointed me at a lovely place: http://www.gradwell.com >=20 > They do look pretty good. So could I get a domain registered=20 > with them and host it on, say Free4All? Would it be a full host or=20 > just forwarding? For =A310 it's just forwarding. When you pay =A3100 for a domain, = you're generally paying for space as well to host it on nowadays. --=20 Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20 Distributed Systems Support Computer Centre University of Leicester ------------------------------ message 49645 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49645 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:42:52 +0000 In-Reply-To: <696.95T65T3263904T.A.S@bigpond.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: V MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tim, >> I've yet to see a patched "MCC". > YAM had a patched version of NList. No it didn't, AIR. It originally (YAM 1.3.2) used the standard MUI listview which you could replace with NListViews if you renamed files... other than that using the standard Gilles Masson NList works fine... All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "So, I'm *not* a vampire", Tom reflected. ------------------------------ message 49646 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49646 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:45:10 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi roger, >> Okay. We have the final release of Personal Paint on this CD. . >> > Good new & bad. Does this mean Cloanto have finished with the Amiga ? For the time being they have. All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "I organised that big party for the prisoners," Tom confessed. ------------------------------ message 49647 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49647 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:47:44 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matthew, > Just a small point though, its their fault it didn't sell very well: > 1) DPaint still had some features miles ahead of it, and that is years old And doesn't work on gfx cards well. > 2) I seem to have several free versions on my HD anyway Yes, that much is true. > 3) Everyone already has DPaint which does virtually the same thing just > aswell anyway I disagree. Go on, do me an animated gif in DPaint... > 4) No 24-bit It still works in 24-bit internally, but no, no 24-bit. However, there are plenty of other packages for that and it's much faster than DPaint was since v3. > Basically, it never offered anything marginally better than that which was > given away with amigas anyway, you can heardly blame anyone for not buying > it. Tosh. All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Got an AF subscription? If not, why not ring *01458 271102* and save yourself 44% on the cover price? (more for overseas readers!) ------------------------------ message 49648 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49648 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 01:56:41 -0800 From: "Phil Allen" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] AmigaGuide - aaaargh!!!!!!!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Having read everyone's extremely helpful advice on building an AmigaGuide I have commenced said project. Trouble is I've now hit a brick wall, how the hell do I link to a picture? I've looked at other guides and checked what they've done, then converted the filenames to my system and it still does nothing! According to SnoopDOS, it executes the line, but no pic appears. The line is as follows: @{"WBGrab1" SYSTEM "Visage dh1:Contributions/Pics/WBGrab1"} I have made sure that Visage is assigned correctly. I don't know what else to do. Any help greatly appreciated :) Regards, Phil ------------------------------ message 49649 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49649 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:52:33 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20000301200929.A17276@cam.ac.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Strange dates (Was BT Internet) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matthew, >> Date: 1 Mar 2000 19:6:57 +0000 > ^ > Does anywhere actually write it like that? Yes, our intranet. :( The date and time appears on the web page and it's always without leading zeros: 9:5:2 AM (like the AM makes it better...) All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Try this: http://www.amibench.org/ ------------------------------ message 49650 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49650 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:53:33 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Keyboard PC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Daniel, >> Whhhhooooooooooooooooooooo?!!!?!?! > Sometimes your sigs seem designed to confused the unenlightened, Ben > :) But of course. I'm doing some new ones today, I think... All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Inflation to be phased out in favour of annual 1.1% lowering of wages to avoid costly relabelling of goods ------------------------------ message 49651 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49651 From: "Richard Drummond" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:54:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <001101bf840d$7fe02320$dc84a7ca@night65server> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: ADF Tools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NiGhT65 On 02-Mar-00, you wrote: > Now Ive been experimenting with WinUAE until i buy my Amiga...and ive > found a load (about 300) old A500 and afew A1200 games in my drawer and Im > wondering if theres a way i can make These disks into ADF files so i can > use them with UAE. If anyones got *any* utils or ways of doing it, let me > know ASAP. Standard PC floppy drives cannot read Amiga disks, so unless you have the PC version of Catweasel, you'll need an Amiga. Use the TransADF tool on the Amiga to convert the contents of a floppy to an disk image file. Bang a disk in the drive, open a shell and enter: TransADF >game.adf You then have the problem of how to transport this file to a PC (an ADF is too large to fit on a 720K floppy). You could try compressing it - but you would have to use an archiver that you have a unarchiver on your PC for. LhA and Zip would be obvious candidates. Cheers, Rich -- Richard Drummond Staff Writer, Amiga Format mailto: richard.drummond@futurenet.co.uk pgp : http://www.drummond.u-net.com/download/richards_key.asc phone : +44 (0)1225 442244 ext 2417 ------------------------------ message 49652 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49652 From: "Richard Drummond" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:56:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: <89k788$m3io@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Genesis and BT =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A39.99?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Sean On 01-Mar-00, you wrote: > Just upgraded to os3.5 and Genesis falls flat on its face, oh well > Anyone know of a fix ? will it be fixed soon ? How do you mean 'falls flat on its face'? I use Genesis and os3.5 successfully. Cheers, Rich -- Richard Drummond Staff Writer, Amiga Format mailto: richard.drummond@futurenet.co.uk pgp : http://www.drummond.u-net.com/download/richards_key.asc phone : +44 (0)1225 442244 ext 2417 ------------------------------ message 49653 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49653 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:12:12 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Whats going on? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Peter, > 1) Phase5 have filed for backruptcy (spelling anyone?), so no G4 direct= ly > from them 2) DCE have firm licenses to make old Phase5 stuff, but no G4= > prototypes, BUT they have talked to Wolf, but they're not sure what > they're up to when it comes to this whole Gx business 3) Met@box are The phase 5 G4, from any company, is never likely to see the light of day= =2E I think you can take it for granted that when p5 announce a product's availability, it's usually some two years after their original announcement. Hence I doubt that serious work has been done on the G4 to this point. Oh yeah, and it's bankruptcy. > =B7 Is anyone working on a G4 card for big box amigas at the moment? An= d if > so, who, what, when, where, how...??!? :) = No. > =B7 What about G3? Met@box have gone one in planning. Presumably, given that their A1200 G3 works fine, I don't see it taking more than six months. > =B7 What about BoXeR? Yes, how 'bout that? > =B7 (Amiga based..) Alternatives?? Nope. Unlike the PoP box and OS4.0 come to fruition. All the best, -- = Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "You and Patricia deserve each other", said Tom meretriciously. ------------------------------ message 49654 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49654 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:13:10 +0000 In-Reply-To: <38BDA17A.26E0CA2A@ross-gill.co.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: TinTin (Was: Amiga website) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Christopher, > Pah, you can tell Herge was dead by this time :-| It may have been a > bit early for Monkey Island, but post DotC surely they could have come > up with some kind of puzzle/adventure game with graphics to live up to > the books. Still, it isn't as if any game license has ever lived up to= > its hype... I had a day off school when Herg=E9 died I was so distraught... All the best, -- = Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Family Fortunes answers: Q. Name a number you have to memorise A. 7 ------------------------------ message 49655 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49655 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:13:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: <89k9f4$5dfa@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Mag Size MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Phillip, > When Amiga Shopper went to staples it only lasted about another 3 > months tell me the same thing isn't going to happen with AF It lasted nearly a year, didn't it? All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Inflation to be phased out in favour of annual 1.1% lowering of wages to avoid costly relabelling of goods ------------------------------ message 49656 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49656 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:14:10 +0000 In-Reply-To: <516.96T2180T14202neil@wire.net.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: FTP Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Neil, >> There are plenty of reasons to criticise every software house; every >> program ever written (with the obvious exception of "Hello World" and the >> like) has bugs and flaws > "Hello World"'s locale support is rubbish :) Guten Tag Welt? All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ *Aries*: /(Mar 21-Apr 19)/ You find yourself shunned by friends when you join a tiny group that believes in such strange, unseen forces as "gravity" and "electromagnetism." ------------------------------ message 49657 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49657 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:14:44 +0000 In-Reply-To: <200003020056.AAA16351@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gerald, >> perhaps a lot of people are fed up of listening to promises and would >> like articles full of practical electronics projects and advice. > I seriously doubt that the majority of people are interested in > "practical electronics projects". That much was demonstrated by CU... All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ *Quiz tag:* make four equilateral triangles with six matches ------------------------------ message 49658 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49658 From: "Kevin Fairhurst" Date: 2 Mar 2000 09:21:40 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Whats going on? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:43:17 +0000, Peter Gordon (mrtickle@amiga4k.ndo.co.uk) wrote: > Hi, 'lo > I'm fed up of using an 030/25. Somebody DO something!!! wanna buy an A3640? ;-) Kev -- Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM ------------------------------ message 49659 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49659 From: "Kevin Fairhurst" Date: 2 Mar 2000 09:22:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: <89k788$m3io@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Genesis and BT =?iso-8859-1?q?=A3?=9.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:57:12 -0800, Sean Martin (sean@martin53.freeserve.co.uk) wrote: > Just upgraded to os3.5 and Genesis falls flat on its face, oh well > Anyone know of a fix ? will it be fixed soon ? ummm, it's working fine here as ever - you re-installed genesis to make sure your mui stuff and prefs and that haven't gone walkabouts? Kev -- Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM ------------------------------ message 49660 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49660 From: Marco Amadori Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:15:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <001101bf840d$7fe02320$dc84a7ca@night65server> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: ADF Tools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Il 02-Mar-00, NiGhT65 scrisse:\n > Now Ive been experimenting with WinUAE until i buy my Amiga...and ive > found a load (about 300) old A500 and afew A1200 games in my drawer and= Im > wondering if theres a way i can make These disks into ADF files so i ca= n > use them with UAE. If anyones got *any* utils or ways of doing it, let = me > know ASAP. You can use virtually any disk imager imager on aminet as far as you have= an amiga (it's impossible to read amiga disks on pc) and you dont use compression features. You also have to rename imagefile afterward *.adf. For some disk you have to specify more tracks to read. You can use for example Yadi.lha on aminet. 7.RamDisk:> yadi YADI v2.0 - Yet Another Disk Imager - Public Domain Written by Andr=E9 Rodrigues de la Rocha = Usage: yadi [options] [disk_image] Commands : r : read disk image from device w : write disk image to device i : show informations about the device Options : -c : generate compressed disk images -a : ask for user reply in read/write error -q : quiet operation -n : number of disk images to read/write -t : number of retries -s : starting cylinder -e : ending cylinder > yadi r ram:thomas.adf df0: -- = Ave Mellas = Del resto, le disgrazie, non si comprano al mercato. ------------------------------ message 49661 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49661 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 02:43:11 -0800 From: "Mikey C" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Genesis and BT =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A39.99?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "richard drummond" wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49652 > Hello Sean > > On 01-Mar-00, you wrote: > > > Just upgraded to os3.5 and Genesis falls flat on its face, oh well > > Anyone know of a fix ? will it be fixed soon ? > > How do you mean 'falls flat on its face'? I use Genesis and os3.5 > successfully. > -- > Richard Drummond Me Too and it works fine. :) BTW I am really annoyed with BT. The only way you can sign up with BT Internet is if you have a credit card. They don't take cheques, direct debits or any other method. I think whoever came up with that one is a real loony. For the record, I don't trust myself with a credit card O.K? Regards Mikey C ------------------------------ message 49662 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49662 From: "Sealey, M." Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:43:33 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: FTP Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > fool said, > > > There are plenty of reasons to criticise every software > > house; every program ever written (with the obvious > > exception of "Hello World" and the like) has bugs and flaws > > "Hello World"'s locale support is rubbish :) Do you know how much bloat it adds to the helloworld app when you DO add Locale support? :) -- Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk Distributed Systems Support Computer Centre University of Leicester ------------------------------ message 49663 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49663 From: "Sealey, M." Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:45:00 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_Re=3A_R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_=28W_as=3A_What=27s_on_AFCD51=3F=29?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > > Go and search for the "Ottoman" PC - it's like a footstool with > > > > a PC inside it! > > > > > http://sozodesign.com/ottoman.html > > Ohhhhh pretty, but Matt what would you sit on ? ;) I don't see why not ;) -- Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk Distributed Systems Support Computer Centre University of Leicester ------------------------------ message 49664 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49664 From: Hugo Wilkinson Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:47:05 +0000 In-Reply-To: <89lgjv$l0qn@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Genesis and BT =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A39.99?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mikey > BTW I am really annoyed with BT. The only way you can sign up with BT > Internet is if you have a credit card. They don't take cheques, direct > debits or any other method. I think whoever came up with that one is a > real loony. agreed... why can't we slap it on our current BT phone bills!>?!? > For the record, I don't trust myself with a credit card O.K? i have one... but I can't trust myself with it anymore either... i keep blowing the limit up... cya hugo ------------------------------ message 49665 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49665 From: Hugo Wilkinson Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:44:42 +0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Signing up for BT 9.99 deal.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello.. The 9.99 deal will have to be signed up through a PC at your library or cybercafe or something i'm afraid. VOYAGER and IBROWSE do not cope with the javascript orientated login AT ALL. They don't even display the different buttons for loggin in! AWEB does a good job (if you've ever been to the BTInternet site before with Aweb, clear ALL your caches before going back!).. AWeb does fine until it comes upto the CREDIT CARD bit. It looks like either 1> bad javascript programming, or 2> something a bit unusual which Aweb doesn't know about.. anyway, if you choose to DEBUG the problem on this page, then you'll get a pull down list of years called "null0, null1, null2" etc etc.. I guessed that was 2000,2001,2002 etc etc. However, when you select one and press the NEXT button it reports an error saying that you should TYPE IN the year using numeric DIGITS only!! so something has gone RIGHT up the creek there.... ALTERNATIVELY, use NETSCAPE on Mac Emulation... or a browser with linux. they both work well too.. cya hugo ------------------------------ message 49666 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49666 From: Hugo Wilkinson Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:49:32 +0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] BT ISP thingies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! When my U-net account was working, I use to be able to access my FREESERVE e-mail account by dialing my U-Net ISP and vice-versa.. does anyone know if this is possible with the BT ISP?? I don't want to change my e-mail address because its not practical... but I would also like to take up the free calls offer and pay 9.99 to access that free line.. anyone have any ideas?? or have an old FREESERVE account they could try and check the mail from? also, if there is a NAMe for this activity, what it is? thanks cya hugo ------------------------------ message 49667 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49667 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 03:00:47 -0800 From: "Nick Lamburn" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ben, > > Just a small point though, its their fault it didn't sell very well: > > > 1) DPaint still had some features miles ahead of it, and that is years old > > And doesn't work on gfx cards well. Agreed, DPaint is very little use for a gfx. card owner, like me; and under AGA it's fine; but I got a gfx. card for better graphics... :) > > 2) I seem to have several free versions on my HD anyway > > Yes, that much is true. So do I, but I'm not taking it for granted, I feel really guilty that I didn't upgrade to PPaint 7.1 before though, because if maybe I had purchaced a copy, things may have been different... :( > > 3) Everyone already has DPaint which does virtually the same thing just > > aswell anyway > > I disagree. Go on, do me an animated gif in DPaint... So do, DPaint has some features, but PPaint has image processing better than DPaint; and the ARexx port is much better. 24BIT printing, full gfx. card support and more.. :) > > 4) No 24-bit > > It still works in 24-bit internally, but no, no 24-bit. However, there are > plenty of other packages for that and it's much faster than DPaint was > since v3. Much faster... :) > > Basically, it never offered anything marginally better than that which was > > given away with amigas anyway, you can heardly blame anyone for not buying > > it. > > Tosh. I agree, that is complete utter crap (sorry), DPaint is great, yes, I have DPaint II, III and IV.V :) (4.5) and PPaint is still used more, okay so because DPaint doesn't like my Pixel 64, but PPaint is a modern bitmap painting package that is unrivalled. I just wish I had bought the upgrade... All the best, Nick. ------------------------------ message 49668 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49668 From: "NiGhT65" References: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:08:29 +1030 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Re:ADF Tools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So can i use my old A500 (hold the laughing thanx) to make the ADF files providing ive got the right software..... I really need to buy a decent Amiga eh?.... Cheers Ben ------------------------------ message 49669 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49669 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:44:07 +0100 From: Tudor Davies References: <20000301124557.A1657@high5.net> <89j8t2$9dtt@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <89j8t2$9dtt@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Mac Monitors - help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil Allen wrote: > Okay, for your technical enjoyment, here it is: > Apple 1705, apparently, the guy said he thinks it is a multiscan but > he's not sure. Here is the link at the Apple site: http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n18615 It's a PC/Mac monitor - but doesn't do the Amiga modes :( Still a nice monitor though :) l8r -- Tudor Davies Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices Technology in Perfect Harmony Team Member of AmiBench Web: http://www.AmiBench.org Specialist in Internet Security & ISP Email: tudor@high5.net Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 49670 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49670 Date: 2 Mar 2000 11:5:3 +0000 From: "Neil Bothwick" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: FTP Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sealey, M. said, >> "Hello World"'s locale support is rubbish :) > Do you know how much bloat it adds to the helloworld app > when you DO add Locale support? :) That's a feature, not bloat. HelloWorld with a 3d flight sim easter egg is bloat :) Neil -- Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider http://www.wire.net.uk -- But there, everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the funeral expenses. -- Jerome K. Jerome ------------------------------ message 49671 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49671 From: George Davis Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 11:13:07 +0000 In-Reply-To: <89k6kt$hqrh@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: PPC Trouble MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01-Mar-00, Allen Kong wrote: > On my system I don not have "not 2" in the terminator file I just have > "2" try that. Heh.What I /meant/ was 'Terminator=3D0' or 'Terminator=3D1' (ie. not 2) := ) (it says in the docs that the PPCemulib won't work with Terminator set to= 2) I've tried it on 0,1 and 2.Still no luck.It won't execute PowerUp progs. Can you list the changes you have made to your setup (startup-sequence,et= c.) to get the PowerUp emulation running? Assuming you have a BlizzardPPC board too.= Here's what I did : added #'BPPCFix reboot'# to the start of the startup-= sequence, copied the new #'PPC.library'# to LIBS:, changed the env varibles #nopatch=3D1# and #terminato= r=3D0#. What have I missed? -- Geo= ------------------------------ message 49672 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49672 From: George Davis Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 11:45:20 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02-Mar-00, Ben Vost wrote: #-heavily snipped-# > It still works in 24-bit internally, but no, no 24-bit. However, there = are > plenty of other packages for that and it's much faster than DPaint was > since v3. Funnily enough,since I installed FBlit,Dpaint 5 is running /faster/ than = PPaint 7.1, for general drawing anyway.(with an 040/AGA) But PPaint is still better for most things. -- = Geo ------------------------------ message 49673 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49673 From: ANTONF@uk.ibm.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:21:52 +0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Buster MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wanting a few pieces of information. Firstly should I get my Buster rev9 replaced with a rev11. If so how much would it cost? And can I do it myself or is it a tricky operation? I ask this because I heard that rev9 can only take two cards which I have but I was hoping to get a G3 board and didnt want to have any problems. Joke: In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates? ------------------------------ message 49674 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49674 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:06:42 +0100 From: Tudor Davies References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 05:19:20PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote: > et voila! If you're having lots of trouble, just give me a poke and I'll > see if I can help. For I am the FBlit Master!!! I've just had the bestest idea in the world ever - really!! Matt must attend the WOA'2000 and have a stand of all his own. This will acheive 3 aims: 1/ Matt can do a housekeeping/cleanup service. People bring in their A1200's, etc and Matt sorts out their memory/startup/conflict issues 2/ Matt can charge and make money for some good cause 3/ Everyone gets to meet Matt face-to-face (i'm sure this would help!) The other spin-off would be someone opposite his stand selling wet sponges to throw at him :) Seriously though, I think this "clinic" idea would be well worth it. And if people cannot bring their machine, Matt could provide a list of printouts that they must bring with them for him to troubleshoot on paper. Ideas? Question? Flames? l8r -- Tudor Davies Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices Technology in Perfect Harmony Team Member of AmiBench Web: http://www.AmiBench.org Specialist in Internet Security & ISP Email: tudor@high5.net Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 49675 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49675 From: "Sealey, M." Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:12:07 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 05:19:20PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote: > > > et voila! If you're having lots of trouble, just give me a > > poke and I'll see if I can help. For I am the FBlit Master!!! > > I've just had the bestest idea in the world ever - really!! > > Matt must attend the WOA'2000 and have a stand of all his own. > > This will acheive 3 aims: > > 1/ Matt can do a housekeeping/cleanup service. People bring in their > A1200's, etc and Matt sorts out their memory/startup/conflict issues Hmm.. > 2/ Matt can charge and make money for some good cause Suggest a good cause ;) > 3/ Everyone gets to meet Matt face-to-face (i'm sure this would help!) I'll be wearing a t-shirt anyway, I think. You'll all be able to see who I am.. > Seriously though, I think this "clinic" idea would be well worth it. > And if people cannot bring their machine, Matt could provide a list of > printouts that they must bring with them for him to > troubleshoot on paper. Sounds too much like work to me ;) > Ideas? Question? Flames? How about I just hang around the AF stand and do my work from there? Or people just run up to me ad-hoc and badger me for info or something? -- Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk Distributed Systems Support Computer Centre University of Leicester ------------------------------ message 49676 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49676 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 05:16:56 -0800 From: "David McMinn" In-Reply-To: <20000302140641.A5831@high5.net> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 1/ Matt can do a housekeeping/cleanup service. People bring in their > A1200's, etc and Matt sorts out their memory/startup/conflict issues Or spends the entire time laughing at how badly the dolts' Amigas are set up. Maybe there could be "special guest appearances" by people who know a little bit about FBlit but not aas much as Matt, like the guy who wrote it. ;) Joking aside though, could be a good idea. ------------------------------ message 49677 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49677 From: "Simon Hall" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 05:18:32 PST X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Linux serial ports and digital cameras MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anybody know how to program serial ports in Linux coz i have a load of coad which i need to convert to AmigaOS functions (C). I can either do this by changing each function separately or write another function that converts the args to AmigaOS functions, so i don't have to modify any code. You see i heard about gPhoto the Linux digital camera program and tried to port it. I have managed to compile the core of the program (i took out all the gui code) and it runs fine. i created a test friver that did nothing to test the system. so now i need to convert a load of linux code and bung on a gui and hey! we'll have a program that supports 100+ cameras and the list is increasing everyday! so if anyone can help me (i want a camera too!) i'll be thankfull! Simon Hall ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ message 49678 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49678 From: "Dauber" Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:26:37 -0500 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I may have sought help on this before, and whoever gave me the help was right on the money, but it's starting again... I have TurboPrint 7...my problem lies there... Lately when I've been booting up TurboSpool has been trying to start up before TurboStart, which as y'all know, won't work. I adjusted some things in my WBStartup drawer -- that is, on all the items in the drawer I set one of the tooltypes to CX_PRIORITY=2. Everything except TurboStart has that tooltype; TurboStart has CX_PRIORITY=0. My understanding is that the lower the number is, the earlier the program will start, which means that TurboStart should be the first thing that runs. Anyway, this worked for a while, but last night I was getting that conflict again. Here's my setup: -- Amiga 4000 desktop, NTSC -- GVP/Tekmagic 4060 accelerator -- 2MB chip RAM, 12MB fast RAM on motherboard, 128MB fast RAM on accelerator -- Picasso IV running 800 x 600 24-bit via Picasso 96 software -- OS 3.5, DOpus 5.82 [yes, I finally bought it, and I admit that I love it now!] Any clues? I s'pose one thing I can do is go back to what I had some time ago -- take TurboStart and TurboSpool out of my WBStartup directory and make a pull-down menu item that'll start 'em separately, but I'm sick of doing that.... ------------------------------ message 49679 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49679 From: "Kevin Fairhurst" Date: 2 Mar 2000 13:29:02 +0000 In-Reply-To: <004901bf844a$f07355c0$a508f3d0@default> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:26:37 -0500, Dauber (dauber@wallnet.com) wrote: > My understanding is that the lower > the number is, the earlier the program will start, which means that > TurboStart should be the first thing that runs. I think you've got it the wrong way round - AFAIK the HIGHER the priority, the sooner it is run. Therefore something with a priority of 127 runs first, and something with a priority of -127 runs last ... Kev -- Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM ------------------------------ message 49680 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49680 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:29:39 +0000 In-Reply-To: <004901bf844a$f07355c0$a508f3d0@default> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dauber, > Lately when I've been booting up TurboSpool has been trying to start up > before TurboStart, which as y'all know, won't work. I adjusted some things > in my WBStartup drawer -- that is, on all the items in the drawer I set > one of the tooltypes to CX_PRIORITY=2. Everything except TurboStart has > that tooltype; TurboStart has CX_PRIORITY=0. My understanding is that the > lower the number is, the earlier the program will start, which means that > TurboStart should be the first thing that runs. T'other way around mate. 127 is the highest priority, 0 is normal, -127 is the lowest. All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ try this: http://ter.air0day.com ------------------------------ message 49681 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49681 From: "Kevin Fairhurst" Date: 2 Mar 2000 13:32:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:29:39 +0000, Ben Vost (ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk) wrote: 'lo Ben > T'other way around mate. 127 is the highest priority, 0 is normal, -127 is > the lowest. Why don't you read other people's replies before posting you're own, Ben? I mean, come on, I beat you to it by 37 seconds ... If I were moderator you'd be looking at a 1 week ban for that ... ;-) Kev PS Seeya all in a week peeps :) -- Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM ------------------------------ message 49682 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49682 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:35:27 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Kevin, >> T'other way around mate. 127 is the highest priority, 0 is normal, -127 >> is the lowest. > Why don't you read other people's replies before posting you're own, Ben? > I mean, come on, I beat you to it by 37 seconds ... Well, tbh, your answer *was* quite wishy-washy - all AFAIK and all that. Mine is firm and definitive, as you'd expect from someone of my stature (about 6'2", thanks for asking). All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Family Fortunes answers: Q. Name a food that can be brown or white A. Potato ------------------------------ message 49683 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49683 From: "Kevin Fairhurst" Date: 2 Mar 2000 13:41:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:35:27 +0000, Ben Vost (ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk) wrote: > Hi Kevin, 'lo again > Well, tbh, your answer *was* quite wishy-washy - all AFAIK and all that. The reason I was wishy-washy about the answer is because there's something else with the Amiga where priority works in reverse. I can't for the life of me recall what it is (ie it's not this or boot-up sequence prioities) so was merely covering my back ... > Mine is firm and definitive, as you'd expect from someone of my stature > (about 6'2", thanks for asking). Really? You didn't seem that tall at WoA when you won that award ... in fact, Rich seemed considerably taller than you despite his illness! And just because I'm only about 5'9" or so doesn't make my answers any less definitive (wishy-washy replies not withstanding ;) Kev, forseeing a poll on average heights of afb members ;-) -- Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM ------------------------------ message 49684 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49684 From: "Shadow" Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:43:08 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] A4000 questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I have just bought an A4000 with PIV and Ariadne and now I have e few questions: My clock is not working is it possible to change the battery myself? I have tried to pull it out, but it is stuck. The AGA flicker fixer on the PIV is behaving strangely. It works for a few seconds, then the screen starts to disappear. Does this mean that I am one the unlucky people who needs to have my PIV fixed? How much Fastmem can the motherboard handle? It is currently equiped with 4*4Mb Fast and 2Mb chip, I have tried to change two of the simms to 16Mb each, which would give a total of 40Mb fast, but it will not recognises them :( Thanks Steen ------------------------------ message 49685 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49685 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:54:21 +0100 From: Tudor Davies References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 01:12:07PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote: > > 2/ Matt can charge and make money for some good cause > Suggest a good cause ;) Ummmm - I dunno! Matt's pocket? CLIC? The AFB Fund? > > 3/ Everyone gets to meet Matt face-to-face (i'm sure this would help!) > I'll be wearing a t-shirt anyway, I think. You'll all be able to see who I > am.. You mean that you will be wearing a "I'm Matt Sealey" T-shirt? Cool - I want one just to confuse people :) > Sounds too much like work to me ;) Let's say that you got 1 for every one - would that make it worth it? AF could mention that you were gonna be there running a clinic and what you would need, etc. Is LAAUG(!?!) having a stand? Be on there. > > Ideas? Question? Flames? > How about I just hang around the AF stand and do my work from > there? Hmm - I might have a word with Andrew Elia about this idea. We could have different people doing different times or different subjects. How's your presentational skills? > Or people just run up to me ad-hoc and badger me for info or something? 'cos you'd shout at them for being stoopid or something ;P Seriously Matt - you have a skill/knack that the rest of us could use - will you offer it if I can get something arranged? l8r -- Tudor Davies Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices Technology in Perfect Harmony Team Member of AmiBench Web: http://www.AmiBench.org Specialist in Internet Security & ISP Email: tudor@high5.net Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 49686 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=49686 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:54:37 +0100 (MET) From: Amadori Marco 400966/IF In-Reply-To: <003f01bf843b$dc9a4d60$e784a7ca@night65server> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Re:ADF Tools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, NiGhT65 wrote: > So can i use my old A500 (hold the laughing thanx) to make the ADF files > providing ive got the right software..... Yes, of course. There is not needing for a faster cpu or a better chipset to read a disk and write a diskimage. Beware you still need a place where you create the diskimage, like RAM: or an Harddisk! You need 880 kb only for the image, then you have to transfer this image to a PC.... it means you need to write on floppy or CDROM (I found the rewritable invaluable for such file transfers). 880 kb doesn't fit on a 720 cross-dos (o similia) disk; maybe you have to lha it! (and then find on the net, look in aminet at lha.exe or lhant#? for msdos) Or if you have access to the net via a500... Or you can null-modem cable your pc with your amiga... > I really need to buy a decent Amiga eh?.... It helps as you can see above... :) ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com.